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Issue 2 Defeated: Unions Celebrate, Kasich Reflects on Loss

Public workers celebrate Issue 2 victory at Cleveland rally.

 

Ohio voters overwhelmingly rejected Issue 2 on Tuesday, delivering a haymaker to Republican-led efforts to restrict bargaining rights for government workers and damaging the fortunes of Gov. John Kasich.

The lead was so great that We Are Ohio claimed victory just after 9 p.m. Tuesday with only a fraction of the state's precincts reporting. Kasich conceded the race shortly afterward.

About 61 percent of voters, or nearly 2.2 million, rejected the law known as Senate Bill 5, according to unofficial results. About 39 percent, or about 1.4 million, voted for the law.

Results show Issue 2 lost in 82 of Ohio's 88 counties.

At a victory party in Cleveland, public workers cheered loudly and chanted "We won!" as union leaders, including American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten, read the results.

Offcials called the vote a "veto" of Kasich's effort to break the unions.

"Thank you, John Kasich, for uniting the labor movement like it's never been before," said Stephen Loomis, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association. "We will not be divided again."

In Columbus, Kasich congratulated the Issue 2 opponents and said that the defeat provides him an opportunity to "take a deep breath" and reflect.

"It's clear the people have spoken," Kasich said. "I've heard their voices, understand their decision and I respect what the people had to say."

Tuesday's statewide referendum on Senate Bill 5 ends a nearly year-long standoff between Kasich and Ohio's public workers, a fight that injected life -- and lots and lots of money -- into what would have been a sleepy, off-year election.

The defeat will likely send Kasich and his Republican allies back to the drawing board. For the opponents, the victory has energized an army of pro-union and pro-Democrat supporters a year before the presidential election, in one of the key swing states in the country.

Emboldened by big 2010 election victories and pressed by a looming budget deficit, Kasich and GOP lawmakers pushed SB5 through the legislature in March without any Democratic support.

The law was the first major attempt to overhaul Ohio’s collective bargaining law in decades. At its core, SB5 altered collective bargaining by changing what what be open for negotiations. It put more power in the hands of the managers by restricting what can be bargained for.

The unions representing public workers saw it as a direct attack, and they responded in kind. They gathered roughly 1.3 million signatures – about 900,000 of which were verified – to have SB5 placed on Tuesday's ballot.

So began a long campaign to convince Ohio voters to decide, blitzing voters with television ads containing varying levels of truth.

The supporters argued that Senate Bill 5 would give local governments tools to get their budgets under control, prevent tax increases and help create jobs. They argued that government workers have it better than their private sector counterparts, and that it's time for teachers, police officers and firefighter to pay their fair share.

Opponents called the bill an attack on the middle class that would kill jobs, erode wages, and make it more difficult for local governments to provide services to residents. They said that Senate Bill 5 was a blatant partisan attack by Kasich to undermine the unions.

The defeat will hurt Kasich, but it’s unclear how much. The governor was the most recognizable spokesman for the law, appearing in campaign commercials and, in recent weeks, travelling the state to speak at pro-Issue 2 rallies.

But Kasich still has three years to salvage his popularity, and Republicans remain in control of the Ohio Legislature. Some experts speculate they will attempt a "watered-down" version of Senate Bill 5 that includes only the most popular parts of the plan, including measures about health care costs and pensions.

Related Topics: John Kasich, elections 2011, issue 2, and senate bill 5

Jon Shapiro

10:23 pm on Tuesday, November 8, 2011

We must now all look to see how state and local governments alike attempt to solve the current problems and create more jobs.

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Duane Gibson

11:55 pm on Tuesday, November 8, 2011

Including the problems created by Kasich with draconian cuts to cities and school boards?

Donald R. Thompson

10:37 pm on Tuesday, November 8, 2011

Thank you...Thank you....Thank you...OHIO VOTERS that voted NO

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Tonto

10:42 pm on Tuesday, November 8, 2011

Bye bye business and jobs, hello taxes :(

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kim

10:56 pm on Tuesday, November 8, 2011

I am amazed that in a state that lost the american automotive industry jobs due largely to high union labor costs that they would be so short sited in this election. Lemings still do exist.

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John Meola

11:12 pm on Tuesday, November 8, 2011

It's "short-sighted", not "short sited". Apparently the awful, greedy teachers failed to instill proper language -- and analytic -- skills in you.

Congratulations to the unions and those our there who stood up for the working people of Ohio today!

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WhyNotCleveland

11:41 pm on Tuesday, November 8, 2011

Or spelling (Lemings = Lemmings)

Todd Fisher

11:22 pm on Tuesday, November 8, 2011

Thank you Ohio voters for standing up for the Middle Class. Get on the band wagon. Organize, and unionize your workplace!

GO HOME KOCH BROTHERS

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Todd Fisher

12:32 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011

It's official... more people voted against Issue 2 in 2011... than voted FOR John Kasich in 2010.

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jim

6:44 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011

The war on the nonunion working class by blood sucking labor union is clear.

Thanks Patch for the quick and concise election report.

I am a registered Democrat, a pack a lunch and go to work single person and if some one will give me what I have invested in my Stark County Ohio home and I am out of here.......

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Karen Smart

9:29 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011

don't forget to thank the private sector workers today. We will be working hard at our jobs while you suck up your 8 weeks of vacation!

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Mary

10:27 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt - Confucius

Donald R. Thompson

9:47 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011

I have earned 3 weeks of vacation as a 17 year employee and certainly I am thankful to the working men and women who voted no, private sector and public sector alike.

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Dave

10:02 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011

Next up for communities like Field - layoffs. Other communities will not be far behind. Unions once again showed what they are best at and that IS NOT protecting their members but intimidating those who stand in the way of what they want (and in the case of public unions they have the arrogance to intimidate the very people they serve).

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Capitlist

10:06 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011

I truly hope thatt all of you union memebers and leaders that said you would negotiate in good faith and want to work to a fair solution actually do that. Understand that when everyday people that work in the private sector have not received a raise and in some cases have taken pay cuts over the last several years and you get raises not based on the value of the job you perform but based on time on the job. That you feel entilted to some large retirement system that is goverment funded, that you feel that you should not have to pay a fair share for medical coverage, that you are ENTITLED.... This great country was based on capitalism and governement needs to start to act the same way or there will be nobody left to pay the taxes to support your entitlement attitude.

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James Thomas

11:03 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011

Start the lay-offs yesterday :(

Donald R. Thompson

11:04 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011

if I had told you that more Ohioans in 2011, an off-year election, will vote against Issue 2 than the number of Ohioans who voted for Kasich in 2010, would you believe that? Except that’s true. No on Issue 2 got roughly a quarter of a million more votes than John Kasich did in 2010. How can Kasich argue he has any mandate on collective bargaining reform when No on Issue 2 received more votes than he’s ever gotten? That’s the new problem for those few legislative Republicans who still want to revisit collective bargaining reform. I don’t think we’ve ever seen an issue so definitively tied to a Governor defeated with more votes than that Governor had gotten in their most recent election, either. That may be a feat never repeated again. And yet, there are still “pundits” who say Kasich can recover by 2014… although they will probably now say that such things are less probable than they used to suggest.

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Brenda J. Thacker

11:55 am on Wednesday, November 9, 2011

IMO people were voting against the Governor as much as they were voting against Issue 2. As far as regaining popularity-he never had any so that's a bust too. He's nothing but an ax man, chopping anything and everything so of course people are against him. In the hands of someone more sensitive to people this might have passed. All he managed was to energize unions. Me, I'm thankful for unions. I was never in one but the companies I worked for were so afraid their workers would form them they paid well and handed out a ton of perks. All we need now is a backlash where companies stop doing that and the unions will be back in force.

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Dan LaVigne

8:34 pm on Wednesday, November 9, 2011

First the right wing conservatives (also evangelical christians) were against gays, then unions next will be women and last will be all religions except christian. They want everyone to dress, look, act, and pray to the same person. They have so much hate especially seen in the Issue 2 Senate Bill 5 race. To take away from the people who work to protect us, save us, and teach our children. This group are really sick

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James Thomas

12:01 pm on Saturday, November 12, 2011

I think you have confused evangelical christians with professor Pina from KSU

Paul

12:30 pm on Thursday, November 10, 2011

Are you kidding me? There might be some Religious groups who feel that way but no main stream conservatives wants that. Conservatism is all about personal responsibility, smaller government, and freedom. I could say all Dems are socialist, marxist, and bigots, I can show this with examples to prove my point but most Conservatives are not flame throwers and lump all Dems the same. The Gov. probably went a little to far on the bill but it vital that the pensions and health care be reformed. The teachers pension is in trouble, look here: http://buckeyeinstitute.org/the-liberty-wall/#post-

There is a reason why most pensions plans have been eliminated and turned into personal retirement plans. Company/gov'ts steal or borrow from them or don't fund them properly.

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Dan LaVigne

12:57 pm on Thursday, November 10, 2011

Can you answer why every candiate running for the Republicans have to tell everyone that they are ultra convervative and before they even say that, they want everyone to know that they are christian and they prayed and received a message from god that they should run for president. Romey is the only one not bringing up religion and he will never be supported by your party due to his religion.

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Paul

11:19 pm on Thursday, November 10, 2011

Are you kidding me? There are only 3 or 4 real conservatives, none of them like what you are trying to describe. There is 7 billion people on Earth and almost 88% believe in some type of god because Republicans believe it is their calling. What is wrong with believing in God or believing it is their calling? Romney does not speak about Religion because he is a Mormon and people don't understand it. Is there something wrong with God?

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Peter Grossetti

12:34 pm on Friday, November 11, 2011

nothing wrong with god at all ... if that is how you want to believe. Just don't cram him/her/it down my throat.

Dan LaVigne

12:43 pm on Friday, November 11, 2011

Yes there is something wrong with God, because of the way the evangelical preachers tell us to hate everyon who is not christian. Then you have the right wing of the republican party buying into this bs

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Paul

10:44 pm on Friday, November 11, 2011

Please name me one mainstream preacher who tells his flock to hate non Christians, it is Gods goal that we preach the Word to non believers. Or are you talking about Rev. Wright?

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Peter Grossetti

11:53 pm on Friday, November 11, 2011

"we preach the Word to non believers" = "cramming it down my throat".

Believe as you will and leave me alone.

Paul

12:12 am on Saturday, November 12, 2011

Preaching does not have to be telling or forcing anything on you. For most it is just living their life and treating others as they would like to be treated. I would say 99% of Christians do not "cram it down your throat". I am not telling you about my God or preaching to you, I am just stating how mainstream Christianity act. We believe in freedom of religion, so if you do not believe or believe that your pencil is your all might, it is all up to you. Why do you hate Christians?

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Peter Grossetti

9:22 am on Saturday, November 12, 2011

"Why do you hate Christians?" That is YOUR assumption. I never said that, did I?

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Dan LaVigne

11:37 am on Saturday, November 12, 2011

Have you ever listen to the Evangelical TV preachers and what comes out of their mouths. Also the same Evangelicals go all over the world preaching and trying to convert. Also this is what was taught years ago by the nuns. Only Catholics can go to Heaven. Listen to your Republican canidates for President, example Sarah, Mechelle.
Enough said.

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Dan LaVigne

12:10 pm on Saturday, November 12, 2011

No confusion here I know the difference and the Evangelicals and their preachers are the scarest ones. The professor does not hold a candle to these idiots

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Paul

4:51 pm on Saturday, November 12, 2011

Well I guess you are not up on current affairs, Sarah Palin is not running for the Republican nomination. People from your side of the isle can not stand her and have to hate on her at any chance. I have not heard her name since August until you brought her up. So who is this professor you speak of? Are you talking about Rev. Wright? Do we need to pull out the youtube videos? There is a reason Oprah left his church right before 2008 election, she knew he was inflammatory and could be looked at as a bigot.

There are many different Christian sects very few are as you describe. You and Peter might be Christianphobes.

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william

7:55 pm on Saturday, November 12, 2011

It is real easy to see why so many kids have no respect for their teachers or adults in general now a days.

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william

7:58 pm on Saturday, November 12, 2011

To all the teachers out there. Most people do appreciate the job you do !!!!

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Tonto

12:09 am on Sunday, November 13, 2011

Yea, thanks for the riff raff at Occupy live ins !

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